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Tuesday, June 06, 2006

Expositional preaching, huh. I Guess That’s One Way To Do It

In August of last year I posted 15 Things I Learned At Saddleback, and as expected numerous criticisms arose, mainly from Richard Abanes. Most of the critiques were stereotypical. I remember, however, being surprised by the criticism stated, “Expository preaching is not the end all be all of preaching”. At first I passed it off as one guy writing out of anger, frustration, ignorance, or stupidity who just needed a cool down period before he recanted, but over the last year I have noticed several bloggers seem to have real animosity towards those who are outspoken proponents of expository preaching. I have some questions for this almost “anti-expository” preaching crowd that I would love answered.

Recently David Carlson of Gratuitous Advice, whom I know nothing about, actually titled a post “The Cult of Expository Preaching” and followed it up with part 2. David didn’t really make much of a case for his side in either of his two rants, so I am not 100% sure where he stands. Yet, he did raise some questions for me. This post will make more sense if you read these two links above. The posts are pretty short.

Expository preaching would be defined as the communication of a biblical concept, derived from and transmitted through a historical, grammatical, and literary study of a passage in its context, which the Holy Spirit first applies to the personality and experience of the preacher, then through the preacher, applies to the hearers, or something like that. I grew up in the land of topical sermons that used the text as a starting point for soap box preaching, proof texting, and confirming inherited theologies. The purpose of expository preaching as I understand it is to make sure that the God-breathed text we are proclaiming is handled accurately, with as little of man’s opinion as possible. That way the Holy Spirit through the Bible is the one doing the convicting not man. I believe the critics would even agree with that. Otherwise you end up with a seeker sermon on “Why She Left the Water Pot” (which by the way is a fantastic example of what not to do in a sermon)

If Richard Abanes, David Carlson, Pastor Rod or any of the other critics of the pro-exposition crowd are correct, exactly what kind of preaching should we be doing? David says he is not against EP, but did not offer much of anything else in way of what he is for. I am personally not against topical preaching when necessary, but even then it should have biblical exegesis applied. Also the men, Fide-O included, who he calls a cult do occasionally preach topical sermons.

I was hoping to gain some insight into this particular crowd of critics, but so far the 3 or 4 willing to put something in writing don’t really say much of substance. Are they saying exposition of a text, as defined above, is not “relevant” enough? Are they saying that a topical sermon is equal to a biblical exposition as defined above? I am hearing the criticisms, but I am not hearing any solutions. And David if that lame Ezekiel example is the best you can do then I understand why you prefer topical preaching. I have been to several prominent “seeker” churches and would have loved to have heard them just read Ezekiel chapter 12 much less call the congregation a rebellious house. Unfortunately we don’t have the good fortune of what we say being inspired by God. Fortunately we do have a source of information that is inspired by God and expository preaching is the effort to handle that inspired Word accurately. Fortunately for me I got my argument from 2 Tim 2:15 that says “…workmen are not ashamed, accurately handling the Word of God.” David, when you start getting direct revelation from God, like Ezekiel, let me know and I will give you permission to slack on your exegesis. Or you can remain on the side of Marjory Bankson who on Easter of this year, in her seeker church preached, ”A Corporate Call for Seekers: To Celebrate Creativity based on John 20:1-18.

I was going to do a post on this absured post calling expository preaching dangerous, but this guy did a sufficient job. Thanks to Wordsmith for the heads up. I do have a couple of questions for PastorRod. If expository preaching is dangerous, because it "
Expository preaching actually robs the Bible of its authority." Exactly what kind of preaching should we be doing and how does it not rob the bible of its authority and how does it not put mans opinion into the text. PastorRod I would have to say you have an extremely limited understanding of the correct definition of expository preaching. Calvary Chapel verse by verse running commentary and launch texted is not expository preaching. I would say your examples would fit that style more than true exposition.

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wordsmith said...

Here's another fellow who evidently thinks that expository preaching is not all it's cracked up to be.

In fact, he thinks it's dangerous.

I don't know what these guys are learning in seminary or bible college (if they've had any formal training for the pastorate at all), but their flocks are getting the shaft.

LeeC said...

Wow. :(

I have been accused of making an idol out of the Bible before, but it was usually by some wordfaith extremist.

Have the not read John? Psalm 19? Psalm 119????

ThirstyDavid said...

Pointing out that the Prophets and Apostles did not preach Scriptural expositions misses a vital point. Their word were Scripture.

Now, let's go to Nehemiah 8:

5 And Ezra opened the book in the sight of all the people; (for he was above all the people;) and when he opened it, all the people stood up: 6 And Ezra blessed the LORD, the great God. And all the people answered, Amen, Amen, with lifting up their hands: and they bowed their heads, and worshipped the LORD with their faces to the ground. 7 Also Jeshua, and Bani, and Sherebiah, Jamin, Akkub, Shabbethai, Hodijah, Maaseiah, Kelita, Azariah, Jozabad, Hanan, Pelaiah, and the Levites, caused the people to understand the law: and the people stood in their place. 8 So they read in the book in the law of God distinctly, and gave the sense, and caused them to understand the reading.

That sounds like expository preaching to me.

AuthenticTruth said...

I looked over the blog of that Pastor Rod guy. What was really bizarre is the notion that expository teaching has the effect of “robbing the Bible of its authority.”

Here is “Pastor Rod’s” solution:
“The solution is that biblical interpretation must take place within the context of the Body of Christ. “It takes a community of Christ to faithfully interpret the Scriptures” (Quoting from Dave Fitch’s book, “The Great Giveaway” p. 138).

There is that postmodern, “emerging” philosophy of reliance on the “consensus of the community” in interpreting the Scripture. How does this solve the problem of reading into the Bible opinions or an agenda? I guess as long as it is the decision of the “community”, then it is OK according to them.

I also noticed that he appears to be a big fan of NT Wright, which does not surprise me.

Perhaps many of these people who are against expositional preaching have been exposed to some bad preaching under the guise of being expositional. There are plenty of men who claim to teach expositionally, but do a very poor job and end up giving expository teaching a bad name.

This Pastor Rod guy also has another blog (“Behind the Scenes”), where he takes a shot at Calvinism as well. The first paragraph says it all about where he is going with it:

“The Calvinist system defines “choice,” “freedom” and “will” in such a way that it is impossible for anyone to cite a passage from the Bible that a Calvinist cannot interpret to fit his framework.”

He then goes on to criticize Jonathan Edwards, accusing him of using a “philosophical sleight of hand.”
http://pastorrodnotes.blogspot.com/2006/03/calvinism-and-choice.html

David said...

This must be my 15 minutes of fame.

My criticism of the "cult" of EP has to do with the insistence that the "technique" of EP is the only way to preach - that it must be EP. I think that is a fair characterization of at least many, as evidenced by T4G, MacArthur, etc.

My point, as I highlighted, was that God used zeke as an "object lesson" That the method Zeke communicated God's message looks alot like a drama to me - I was not critiqueing the message or how it was recieved, but how God choose to use Zeke in communicating that message.

And thus this relates to the Cult of EP - EP or nothing. Well, I believe there are other valid methods of communicating the message of the bible, and it does not have to be EP

For my next post, I think I will discuss the multiple teaching methods used in Passover.

Again - I am discussing the insistence of a single method above all other methods.

As I think I clearly stated, although not clearly enough, I like EP. I think EP is a great method of communicating the truth of the Bible. I just don't think it is the only way.

David said...

http://onanazurefield.blogspot.com/2006/06/cult-of-expository-preaching-part-4.html

Thanks for encouraging me to continue my thought process

David said...

I have taken another wack at the Cult of EP - feel free to comment.

And just to assure you, I like EP. I just think that it is no biblical support to try to restrict all preaching to EP

Milton Stanley said...

Manual trackback:

Scott Hill writes in defense of expository preaching:

Royce Ogle said...

Perhaps one reason some of these men are critics of expository preaching is that they either can't do it, or are too lazy to do it. I does require a tremendous amount of time to do well.

It is far easier to begin with a presupposition and then find a few verses that prove up your major point. Not all topical preaching is bad, but more error filled messages will likely be topical rather than expository.

If you love the Bible and want to learn what it teaches you will likely be a fan of a good expository preacher. If you like stories and want to hear 5 or 6 topics presented in different ways over the course of several months, then you will probably like a topical preacher.

Francis said...

God disclosed His written revelation by book, not by topic. Each biblical book can only be proclaimed by expository preaching.

No wonder church-going people are undernourished biblically. After years of listening to topical preaching, church-goers are still clueless on what each book of the bible teaches.